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Stores Closed On Thanksgiving Day 2017

Stores Closed Thanksgiving Day 2017

List Updated at 1:31 AM EST November 20, 2017

Despite the fact that many Black Friday sales now begin on Thanksgiving Day, numerous stores remain reluctant to open their doors. Thanksgiving Day is on Thursday, November 23, 2017, this year, and over 75 well-known retailers are expected to be closed. Additionally, some stores will even be closed on Black Friday.

Here is the official list of stores that will be closed on Thanksgiving Day in 2017. BestBlackFriday.com personally confirmed the closed status with a representative from each of these retailers, and the list will be updated daily as more stores make their decision. For openings, see our list of Stores Open on Thanksgiving Day 2017. For hours, see our Black Friday 2017 Store Hours.

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Stores Closed on Thanksgiving Day 2017 List

  • A.C. Moore
  • Abt Electronics
  • Academy Sports + Outdoors
  • Ace Hardware
  • At Home
  • Babies R Us
  • BJ’s Wholesale Club
  • Blain’s Farm and Fleet
  • Burlington
  • Cost Plus World Market
  • Costco
  • Craft Warehouse
  • Crate and Barrel
  • Dillard’s
  • dressbarn
  • DSW – Designer Shoe Warehouse
  • Ethan Allen
  • Fry’s Electronics
  • Gardner-White Furniture
  • Guitar Center
  • H&M
  • Half Price Books
  • Harbor Freight
  • Hobby Lobby
  • Home Depot
  • HomeGoods
  • Homesense
  • IKEA
  • JOANN Fabric and Craft Stores
  • Jos. A. Bank
  • La-Z-Boy (all corporately owned stores)
  • Lowe’s
  • Marshalls
  • Mattress Firm
  • Menards
  • Micro Center
  • Mills Fleet Farm
  • Music & Arts
  • Neiman Marcus
  • Nordstrom
  • Nordstrom Rack
  • Office Depot and OfficeMax
  • Outdoor Research (closed Black Friday too)
  • P.C. Richard & Son
  • Party City
  • Patagonia
  • Petco
  • PetSmart
  • Pier 1 Imports
  • Publix
  • Raymour & Flanigan Furniture
  • REI (closed Black Friday too)
  • Sam’s Club
  • Sears Hometown Stores
  • Sears Outlet
  • Shoe Carnival
  • Sierra Trading Post
  • Sportsman’s Warehouse
  • Sprint (Corporate & Dealer Owned Stores; Mall Kiosks May Open)
  • Staples
  • Stein Mart
  • Sur La Table
  • The Container Store
  • The Original Mattress Factory
  • TJ Maxx
  • Tractor Supply
  • Trollbeads
  • Von Maur
  • West Marine
  •  
    As they do every year during the holiday shopping season, things can drastically change. Certain stores may decide to open on Thanksgiving this year, and other retailers may decide to close. As REI proved a few years ago, there is even a chance that a major retailer or two decides to close on Black Friday, but we have our doubts that it will be any of note in 2017.

    You can review our complete Thanksgiving Day 2016 Closures List to see which stores were closed last year.

    A Note About Cabela’s

    Originally, Cabela’s was included in our list of stores closed on Thanksgiving Day 2017. Unfortunately, we were told by two representatives from Cabela’s that it would be closed in September, but this information either turned out to be incorrect or the decision to close was changed. Cabela’s will be open from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. on Thanksgiving. Please see a screenshot of our original correspondence.

    Cabelas Closed Thanksgiving 2017

    We have edited names out for privacy reasons. Our goal is to not pass blame here, but we want to show why Cabela’s was originally on our closures list.

    Stores Closing Early On Thanksgiving

  • H-E-B
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    Somewhat of a compromise, H-E-B, a supermarket chain based in San Antonio, Texas, will be open from 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day. While employees will still have to go in on Thanksgiving, they will get to go home early enough to enjoy dinner with their family.

    Stores Expected, But Not Yet Confirmed, To Close On Thanksgiving

    The following stores are expected to close on Turkey Day this year. All of these retailers have closed their doors the past few years, so it is likely they will make the same decision this year. While we contacted representatives from each of these stores, we either did not receive a response or were told the decision is not yet final.

  • American Girl
  • AT&T
  • Barnes & Noble
  • Big 5 Sporting Goods
  • Bed Bath & Beyond
  • Bloomingdale’s
  • Christmas Tree Shops
  • Navy Exchange
  • Saks Fifth Avenue
  • Talbots
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    Why Are Stores Closing On Thanksgiving?

    We ask retailers this question every single year, and the answer has been consistently the same across over 100 stores since 2013. Stores want to give their employees and customers a chance to enjoy Thanksgiving Day with their families without having to worry about working and shopping. We admire this reasoning and truly believe that non-essential workers should be able to spend the holidays with their loved ones in peace. In many cases, stores are losing money by deciding to close on Thanksgiving Day, which is admirable for the cause.

    Regardless of our stance, we do not fault any retailer that decides to remain open on Thanksgiving Day. Some stores are in a better position to remain closed on Turkey Day than others, and sometimes the potential sales are too much to lose. In many cases, workers are given the option to work on Thanksgiving and are paid extra for volunteering their time, which is a win-win for everyone involved.

    What Do Americans Think About Stores Being Open on Thanksgiving?

    From September 26-27 of 2017, we conducted a shopping survey of 523 American adults over the age of 18. We asked the question — How do you feel about stores being open on Thanksgiving Day? Here are the results.

    – Strongly Favor It: 5.60%
    – Favor It: 10.62%
    – Indifferent: 26.25%
    – Dislike It: 20.66%
    – Strongly Dislike It: 36.87%

    That means 57.53 percent of respondents do not like the idea of stores opening on Thanksgiving. With 26.25 percent being indifferent, only 16.22 percent actually favor openings.

    As presented in our 2016 Thanksgiving Shopping Survey, 54.69 percent of Americans did not agree with stores being open on Thanksgiving last year. Of that 54.69 percent, 37.72 percent strongly disliked the idea of it, which is more than a third of Americans. Over a quarter was indifferent, while only 17.96 percent of Americans had favorable views. In other words, less than 20 percent of Americans actually liked the idea of stores being open last year.

    Will Any New Major Stores Close On Thanksgiving Day 2017?

    Everyone was surprised last year when HHGregg and the combined Office Depot & OfficeMax decided to close on Thanksgiving. While it appeared as though both stores were starting a new trend of closures, it did not really go much further. Walmart, Best Buy, Kmart, Kohl’s, Target, Sears, JCPenney, and all of the other major retailers were open on Thanksgiving, and in many cases, they held the most important part of their Black Friday sales.

    While Black Friday is still an important day for holiday shopping, Thanksgiving is the day when most of the top doorbusters go on sale. For that reason, shoppers are forced to venture out of their homes on Turkey Day if they want to have a chance at the best prices. The good news is that many of the top doorbusters are now available online, so we believe it is possible to be successful on Black Friday without having to wait in line on Thanksgiving. Plus, Cyber Monday 2017 is expected to be bigger than ever, which is another reason that in-store Thanksgiving shopping is no longer required.

    Despite our intuition saying that none of the major retailers will be closed on Thanksgiving, we are still going to confirm with each store early and often.

    Thanksgiving Blue Laws

    Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Maine have blue laws that prohibit the majority of retailers from opening on Thanksgiving Day. While certain exceptions (restaurants, gas stations, food stores) exist, most of the major stores that we cover will be closed on Thanksgiving in those three states.

    This creates a rush at around 12 am or 1 am on Black Friday morning that is comparable to how things used to be before Thanksgiving openings became so popular. Unless there is a drastic change in the law in these states, we fully expect the blue laws in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Maine to remain in place. Since the average Thanksgiving opening time is around 5 pm or 6 pm, shoppers in these states will only have to wait an additional six or seven hours to begin shopping.

    Retail Store Thanksgiving Spending Is Decreasing

    As ShopperTrak reported at the end of last year’s holiday season, there was a reversal when it came to foot traffic on Black Friday and Thanksgiving. Before last year, Thanksgiving Day sales were eating into Black Friday because of the number of in-store only doorbusters that were exclusively available on Thursday. Since more of these top doorbusters were available online, shoppers either shopped online or waited until Black Friday to go to a brick-and-mortar location. With the majority of Americans disliking Thanksgiving Day openings, they were no longer forced to shop on the day, which is a trend that we expect to continue in 2017.

    As Adobe reported, online sales were up on Thanksgiving Day last year, with $1.93 billion in spending, which was an 11.5 percent increase. While Americans do not like the idea of going to brick-and-mortar locations to shop on Thanksgiving, online shopping on Turkey Day appears to be a fair and welcomed compromise.


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    • Carol Reed

      People need to be home with family even if it’s their dog. In my day nothing was open, that’s when family mattered and we had less crime. Wise up, stores will still make $$$ people will still purchase gifts. Family does matter!!!

      • Amslllt

        Some people don’t have family, or are away from their family and unable to make it home for the holiday…if stores want to open up and they’re allowed to then so be it, if you’re opposed to it, then don’t go, stay at home with your family

        • We Named The Monkey Jack

          So you expect the employees of the stores you shop to be forced to work and be away from their families? People like you who keep supporting the greed of the stores opening on Thanksgiving are causing more harm than good.

          • Peter Sedano

            nobody is saying they should be forced, hes saying they should be allowed to opt in or out to work if they don’t have any family or thing to do that day, it should be a choice if enough employees and management pick to work that day than they can go into work and others can stay at home if they don’t opt to work

            • Michael Archer

              most places won’t let you opt out. In fact when I worked for both Walmart and Best Buy I was informed that if I did not work I should not expect my job after thanksgiving. Also I worked from 4pm thursday until 3:30pm friday. and then had to come back at 5am on saturday at best buy. they don’t care about the employees, they care about the money.

            • Wendi Baugher

              More truth

          • Amslllt

            They choose to work in retail, according to your logic we should shut down the hospitals and police and fire departments on the holidays too

            • CWLaker

              That is a ridiculous comparison, Amslllt. Also, many (probably most) employees have no say in the decision to work on Thanksgiving. If you are scheduled to work and don’t show up, in most cases, you risk losing your job. I have worked at my retail job for 7 years and I have spent part of every Thanksgiving at work. All for a part-time job that pays a very minimal wage (and not an extra penny for being forced to work the holiday, either.) All so greedy consumers don’t miss an opportunity to shop, heaven forbid! As long as those shoppers are out there the stores will continue to have the doors open. Minimum wage workers deserve an opportunity to celebrate the holiday, and their families deserve to have them home with them, as well.

            • Amslllt

              How is it ridiculous? It’s the exact logic. I am a nurse, and I too am forced to work every holiday, including Christmas. But it’s what I choose to do knowing that I have to work on holidays. Every person that I know who work in retail on Thanksgiving are only asked to work 4 hours, not even a full shift, its Black Friday where they’re needed the most, and most stores will close early like 3pm, or open late like 6pm so isn’t it easy to accomplish both?

            • Kwright

              4 hours not true at all!!! I work 32 hours with 36 hours only going home 4 hours on Thanksgiving once. The worst part was I was salary and didn’t get ANYTHING extra for it. Most stores open around 4pm-6pm(which requires employees to be there an hour or 2 earlier) and don’t close until the next night. I did sign up for retail and expect it, but at the same time there should be limits. Part-time associates that work 4 hours are working more like 12 going into the next day.

            • Wendi Baugher

              Exactly

            • Marilyn Wallace

              And what dream world are you living in nurse hillbilly????

            • Amslllt

              My dream world is ‘Merica (hillbilly language) the land of the free and the home of the brave where we let entitled whiners like you complain about their jobs and not do anything about it because of the brave men and women who gave their lives to give you the right to do so

            • donna

              I’m with Amsllt on this one. Americans are not indentured servants these days. If your working conditions are heinous in retail, seek another field. And please stop labelling people. This is a forum to exchange thoughts, not criticize people for sharing thoughts that may differ from your own.

            • Marilyn Wallace

              CONGRATS! YOU are a HILLBILLY TOO!!!

            • donna

              Get a grip Marilyn! I am not a hillbilly, and i don’t appreciate your pejorative term for people who live rural lifestyles. I respect them. FYI, I’m an ivy league MBA that has volunteered and fallen on hard times occasionally due to health and family matters. If you want to do battle with me, bring it on, but i doubt your limited intellectual capacity is worth my time.

            • Amslllt

              Don’t even waste your breath, she’s not even worth it, it’s like arguing with a 4 year old. And yes, her intellectual capacity is VERY limited

            • donna

              Marilyn, you are the stupid one. You seem to have no credentials to opine on this matter or define “hillbilly”. Maybe we would listen to you if you demonstrated one ounce of intelligence or rational thought to support your specious argument.

            • donna

              Guess you had to look up the definition for “specious”. Who’s the “hillbilly” now?

            • Marilyn Wallace

              Before you commence the square dancing, let me tell you “bring it on” woman, haha, you don’t even get what we are talking about??? A true Hillbilly!!

            • donna

              Just go away and leave your negativity to yourself.

            • Marilyn Wallace

              YOU are nurse Hillbilly!!!

            • Ladyr

              Most major retailers do not pay time and a half, and employees are forced to work a full shift, 8 hours. I have missed every holiday for 9 years with my children except for Christmas. Yes, it is my choice to work retail, however we do not need shopping stores open on holidays. I remember as a kid retail stores were not open on holidays. You planned ahead and had everything you needed or went without, and we all survived just fine. Not like hospitals that need to be open, and I’m will to bet get you get paid a lot better than the average person that works retail as well.

            • Jayne Jill DeBoer

              Uh, no……how much do Um you make an hour??? How much does a retail worker make any hour? Do you het overtime??? Most of them do not!

            • Jayne Jill DeBoer

              Nice try, though…

            • Wendi Baugher

              I work retail and working only 4 hours does not happen. If I am lucky they will work me early morning then I will come home and cook Thanksgiving dinner then work over night Thanksgiving night into Black Friday. That is if I am lucky.

            • lizzie

              4 hours retail…. lol more like 12-14 hour shifts thursday friday & saturday.. I love my job and yes I make time to have thanksgiving at my house however, i believe retail is destroying our culture. We have no holidays left. Stores are closed 1-2 days out of the year. But at the end of the day you know that the customers pay your bills. So if they want to shop then employees need to show up. I make my own traditions during slow times of the year. 🙂 Typically, My store opens up at 3pm on thanksgiving day. Last year I woke up like 6am to make my thanksgiving breakfast/lunch. To show up to the store at 2:30 and to work until 2 am. Then I came back at 2PM till 2AM.

            • Krystal Wilson

              You have to work a full shift at wally world.

            • Cindi

              I’m a nurse and have NEVER been forced to work EVERY holiday! you rotate your turn through the holidays. You can even request them off or trade with someone. when my children where small I switched every Christmas with my single friend who wanted New Years off to go to the rose bowl. Many hospitals also offer shortened shifts, since most now are 12hours. we did blocks of 4h. as long as it was covered the administrators didn’t care. It only became a problem if someone abused the privilege of switching up the hours for the holidays that we where “forced” to work it

            • Jayne Jill DeBoer

              EXACTLY!!!

            • Marilyn Wallace

              Like retail is a BIG choice you hillbilly!!

            • Amslllt

              No need to name call, you don’t know me, and I don’t know you, after all this is a “family” oriented discussion. Besides a hillbilly wouldn’t care if stores were open on holidays or not, they tend to stay in their rural habitat whereas department stores and the stores that would be open on Thanksgiving tend to be in more suburban populated areas

            • Marilyn Wallace

              Your stupid and a Hillbilly!!!! A Hillbilly is just trashy period and very stupid!!

            • Amslllt

              Wow…you’re childish, ^^^are you proud of that? You’re an immature idiot

            • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

              I have a question is the use of the word hillbilly in place of the word white trash.

            • Aleister DaSilva

              Nobody chooses to work in retail. Have you noticed there aren’t a lot of jobs out there?

            • Lisa Shifflett

              I agree with you 100%!!

            • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

              Is that what we said. I don’t think so. I think we are saying that we don’t think people should be shopping and should be home with their families. Me selling you that toy for 10.00 isn’t the same as the policeman saving you from being hurt or the hospital saving your life. Please think before you speak

            • Amslllt

              So what you’re saying is a law enforcement, or medical personnel spending time with their family on Thanksgiving isn’t as important as someone who works in retail? Cause isn’t that what this discussion is about? Stores staying closed on Thanksgiving so retail workers can stay home and spend time with their families? And you’re right that $10 toy doesn’t have to be sold to me on Thanksgiving, but it doesn’t have to be sold to me on July 4, or January 1 either, but nobody has a problem with stores being open on those days, and they’ve been open on those days for years, a lot longer than they’ve been for Thanksgiving

            • My Two Cents

              If retail stores close on Thanksgiving, there will be less need for law enforcement and medical personnel to work and more of them will also be able to stay home.

            • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

              No that’s not what I’m saying as my brother is a police officer. What I’m saying is that those jobs are by far more important. Are you saying they are not more important

            • Amslllt

              No, that’s not what I’m saying, but are you saying Thanksgiving is more of an important holiday than New Years Day, or Independence Day or Memorial Day or Labor Day, or geez Easter?Because stores have been open on those days and nobody seemed to care or minded

            • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

              Thanksgiving is a time meant for families to get together and celebrate. Easter is not a National holiday unlike thanksgiving which is. Easter may be something feel should be but it’s not a government recognized holiday. Not saying that thanksgiving is more important to everyone but for me it is. As for 4th of July the only thing I do with my family is go watch fireworks so if I can’t do that because I have to work that’s really no big deal. As for the other holidays be talked about not many people go all out for those. Again you may but not all do. I’m just stating that for most retail workers Christmas and thanksgiving are the ones that we spend with our families and would like to be able to not rush through our meals or rush our kids to open gifts. That’s what I’m saying

            • Holly

              That’s not what people are saying Amslllt. The person was commending police officers, firefighters and people in the medical field. You are saving lives every day, retail workers are not. The only comparison you can make between the 2 is that you have got to have strength to work in these atmospheres. I have been in retail for over 25 years the last 13 years as an area manager my hours were never 4 hour shift its between 8 to 14 hours for just Thanksgiving. Black Friday weekend you don’t have a choice its black out period from November 17th through January the 5th of the new year. No request time off its what hours you will work even part time workers. My title is included no time off All hands on deck. My aunt was a pediatric trauma nurse for 19 years her team had lay offs no severance packages she had to go back to retail for a while. So hey Amslllt watch yourself most nurses as they get older find themselves having a lay off or forced to retire very early. You may be have to head on down to a retail stores, you may find some of your old colleagues there. Hey everyone what ever job you are in Happy Thanksgiving.

            • Amslllt

              That’s unfortunate for your aunt, I’m sorry to hear that. I never said spending time with family isn’t important, especially during the holidays. I simply said think about the ones who don’t have family, who are all alone sitting at home with nothing to do. Maybe some of them would work in retail, but maybe some of them would go shopping to pass the time, get their mind off being lonely during the holiday. Another thing, my son took a job last month at Best Buy and before they interviewed him they asked him on the phone if he had a problem working holidays. He could’ve said no, maybe he wouldn’t have gotten the job, maybe he would’ve and been privileged to get the holiday off(I doubt it). One last thing people are on here saying they’re only getting paid their regular rate for the holiday? I’d like to know what company they’re working for cause I cannot imagine a major retail chain not paying their employees overtime for working holidays

          • cephalopod

            I find it upsetting that my son has to work thanksgiving and Christmas. The hospitals should at least close on one of those days.

        • Stephanie Thomas

          I think it should be volunteer based. Like you mentioned, some folks don’t have a family to spend the holiday with, for one reason or another. Volunteering would allow those folks to say “Yes! I want to work instead of spending time on my couch, alone.” and it would allow those with other options/plans to live them out. Plus, some people would rather work and get time and a half.

          Personally, I’m NOT in favor of working on a holiday (I’ve lost many a Christmas and Thanksgivings). I don’t shop on Thanksgiving. I wait until Friday or do all my shopping online.

        • photographer

          I strongly disagree with you my opinion

        • Kathy Kaso

          There is a problem right there with what you said. I work at one of those stores that is going to be open. Yes you do not have to go shopping BUT we HAVE to work. I was ok when we opened at midnight even, because I got to spend time with my family. Something that is very important to me. Now I have to be there either at 5 pm or 8pm or I am fired. That is NOT right to us. We all want to spend time with our families and we cannot if we want to keep our jobs. If people didn’t come in that early and came in later then these stores would go back to the old hours. BUT because of people like you that don’t give a crap about the workers just your little deals (BTW deals closer to Christmas are a lot lot lottttt better then black friday ones) we have to come in and deal with that shit

          • Jayne Jill DeBoer

            Exactly right…!

          • Kenneth Cotton

            and who forced u to work retail???? did someone not tell u holidays were mandatory in every retail job???? stores decided to open on thanksgiving because of the massive dangerous rush the mid night openings were causing for years now the deals are spread out over thanksgiving, black Friday and the Saturday and Sunday plus cyber Monday the rush is spread out instead of being all at once. BTW having worked at wal-mart for years now the best deals are on thanksgiving/black Friday and cyber Monday not closer to Christmas when most of the on sale inventory is either sold out or nearly sold out and most of whats left is damaged from black Friday, returns or stuff no one wants also those customers you clearly hate are not only the ones making your paycheck possible there the ones guaranteeing u needed extra money your welcome

        • Lisa Shifflett

          Agreed!

      • Amy

        Hi! I would like to chime in. I am 26, and worked at a store until 1PM on Thanksgiving one year because I volunteered. It was super fun! I was paid double time, and I still was able to see my family. I am not a super big family person. Not every person lives close to their family. The reality is, if you can only celebrate being thankful for you family on one day of the year, you need to think about your priorities in general. Some people celebrate after or before. I think it is super important to be able to see things from both sides. Home is not a happy place for everybody, and for some people co-workers do feel like family 🙂

        • Kk

          I work in a retail store and we are open every holiday but Christmas Day. We got our bonuses taken away, we don’t get time and a half for working holidays, and we are open regular hours. I’d much rather be with my family then work because it’s not even benefiting me to work like it did before.

          • Exactly and it is malarkey to include in this article that people “volunteer”. Most employees are NOT given the choice to volunteer. You are put on schedule and that is it. Consumerism has made this country absolutely full of avarice. It is disgusting.

            • ATL_VM

              No that’s not true they ask for a list of people that WANT to work those days, if they don’t have enough then they enlist people. I worked retail and we were given the option to take more hours so other people could have the time off.. It was great because we made more $$$ but now it appears they are taking away the “bonus” to work that day so less people will volunteer…. I wouldn’t, work a holiday for the same pay, no thanks. Single people that don’t have family close by will work just to take their mind off the holiday..

            • Jason Carter

              My second job is at a major retailer and we were all told that Thanksgiving and Black Friday are mandatory days for all of us, no exceptions, and we don’t get holiday pay or time and a half, just regular pay. They even told us not to expect breaks those days either. I would much rather be at home with my loved ones than working on the holiday, especially since I don’t get to see many of them the rest of the year.

            • AdoptiveMother

              ATL VM- You can’t tell Heidi that what she said is not true. Maybe where YOU work, they ask for volunteers first, but that doesn’t happen everywhere.

          • Layla Leonetti

            Sorry, I don’t think thats fair!! They should close but the Greed of the retailer and the consumer is disgusting!!!

            • Dayna

              Amen @Layla! Amen

            • Jake

              It is like the illegal drug sales and prostitution. Without consumer demand the drug dealers and hookers would not exist. We have met the enemy and They are us.

          • Michael Kingston

            look for another job?

        • Don’t Tread On Me

          It’s people like you who are put up as examples by the greedy companies who don’t care and open on the holidays.
          Enjoy your time and a half.

          • ATL_VM

            There are some people that actually ENJOY working holidays.. keep in mind that holiday doesn’t apply for ANYONE that isn’t in the USA.. it’s a NATIONAL holiday not a worldwide holiday.. so if you are not from USA you may work because it’s just another day.

            • Stacie Joyous

              Go help out in a soup kitchen or a shelter if you really want to work that day. If you do not want to work for free then just treat it like it is just another day off. Stay home and rest or clean something. Do you really NEED to shop that day?

        • April Lombardo

          There’s a difference here. You volunteered. Many don’t have an option and they aren’t clocked out at 1pm. Many work a full or longer shift and also have to come back the next day. Many in retail love their jobs. Fun, challenging, rewarding. Stores weren’t open on holidays in the past. Now they are and people see pulled from their families. The stores should be closed.

          • ATL_VM

            “Stores weren’t open on holidays in the past. Now they are and people see pulled from their families. The stores should be closed.”

            Well that’s not true, I have been working longer than you have been alive and I remember working on Thanksgiving in retail or very early the next day that impacted my Thanksgiving because I had to be in bed by 6PM to make it to work…

            It’s just the race to get that sales dollar has become more competitive so stores are open on Thanksgiving earlier than before and more of them, but it’s not a new concept.

        • Guest

          I agree, I worked on every holiday and in my case I didn’t get O.T or double time. Just the same pay as if it were any other day, because in reality that’s exactly what it is! If this wasn’t called a holiday I don’t think people will get so worked up… however because this day has been elevated and lead people to think it’s only a family day caused priorities to get out of wack. Every day should be a family day. And families large and small should coordinate with each other to have a get together. Not just because it’s a holiday.

          • donna

            Yes! I agree with Guest. I had to miss Turkey Day due to work travel one year and my family just moved it to Saturday. It was just as special 🙂

            • wiscdance

              The difference is for people who work retail. The next months they are working many hours and can’t just move it to another date easily.
              Why should retail workers have to move the holiday. People can shop every other day between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

            • donna

              I do understand and sympathize. If it were up to me, all shopping malls would be closed on major holidays. And I also didn’t enjoy working 80 hour weeks, when needed, but I didn’t have a choice in the matter or I would have lost my job. Why should anyone, not just retail personnel, need to move the holiday? For those out there who need to shop, I’m sorry that you are so materialistic…

            • wiscdance

              It doesn’t matter if the mall is open if you work in an anchor store. Our mall will be closed, but so far we will still be open. Anchor stores have exterior entrances, so they can open even when the mall is closed. No one, except essential services should have to work on Thanksgiving.

          • Makai

            Well party of that mr guest, is that having a holiday where people specifically have a specific day where hardly anyone works, makes it much easier for people to get together when without everyone trying to put in for time off, and hoping to get lucky and have everyone able to make it.

            So that’s part of why people get worked up. Its’ a day you know most of your family is probably off in most situations. Or at least was a day.

        • wiscdance

          Truth is most people don’t volunteer to work and have to work during dinner times and later. I work retail and if you would only schedule the people who volunteer, they would not have enough staff to open the store. Why should people working retail be forced to give up their family time especially since the following weeks they will be working a lot of hours and not have that family time.

          For some families, Thanksgiving is the only time they get together because they have to travel to be together and other businesses have a long weekend to accommodate that travel.

          • donna

            That’s too bad. I face the same circumstances and expect to spend Thanksgiving alone. C’est la vie!
            Please be happy that you do have a family 🙂

            • ATL_VM

              then get another job that is not in retail because that’s how it works.. you WORK the days people have off so they can spend.. duh… It’s not a crazy idea. The fact that people are willing to show up on Thanksgiving to save a few bucks says a lot as well, so it’s NOT ALL retail stores to blame, people WANT to be first in line even if it means going on Thanksgiving.

            • Joe Mellon

              Blah blah blah, same smart azz answer from some smart azz moron. Get another job not in retail. Maybe they can’t get another job because of the area or because they go to school. Maybe you should be more understanding but you sound like a real jerk. Oh and Happy Thanksgiving.

            • FaYe Howe

              Oh right, because it’s so easy to find a job these days. And you know what? If the stores wouldn’t open, no one would be lined up to buy.

            • Michael Kingston

              well… unemployment IS at it’s lowest in a decade…. so… yah.

        • jcunningham

          That’s you, one day the stores being closed won’t hurt them. it’s greedy, I’ve worked on thanksgiving and Christmas, but it was a hospital, that I can see them being open on the holidays. Retail store NO

          • Makai

            But then I ahve to spend time with people who will get drunk and fight about stupid stuff…

            I’d rather get a game 60% off that I kinda wanted, but didnt’ want to pay $60 for, or a blu-ray that I already have the DVD of but now it’s $5 and it’s worth the upgrade in quality for it!

            • jcunningham

              You don’t have to spend time with people who get drunk and fight, leave or just don’t go to their house.

            • ATL_VM

              I think those people in this case are called “family” it’s not like he has a choice.. WE HAVE to spend time with family if not on that day some day.. when you get them together they fight and get drink same happens in my family not enjoyable at all, but I can’t disown my family… believe I tried! haha

            • Makai

              They’ll just guilt you and talk crud behind your back. They might even spread rumors and lies and get the people you don’t hate to hate you. I don’t think you understand just how bad and petty the average family is in America. They are part of the reason divorce rates are over 50% in this country.

          • Janet Slusher

            My mother worked in a hospital. They alternated, one year work Thanksgiving and the next Christmas. No one had to work both. She worked 3-11 so we missed her much of the day. But, it had to be done. Not so for retail.

            • jcunningham

              Working a hospital is different, they’re patients who are sick and need care twenty-four a day. These are retail stores who want to make money and don’t give a hoot about their employees. one day off is not going to hurt their business.

            • ATL_VM

              “one day off is not going to hurt their business.”

              Apparently you know NOTHING about business then, because pretty much 20-30% of the ENTIRE year sales are made that weekend.. so yeah one day COULD be a deal breaker since that’s where they generate a significant amount of income from that 1 day.. if you open later than everyone else you risk losing sales.. It’s a holiday yes, but it’s also a opportunity to stay competitive.. if you are closed you lose income, plain and simple. Its obvious you don’t have a business degree or any sense of how retail works, so maybe you shouldn’t make statements until you are educated in the ways of the world.

            • Joe Mellon

              And apparently you think you know it all.

          • ATL_VM

            Greedy or merely opportunistic.. to “beat the rush” you open early, since people show up on Thanksgiving means there is money to be made.. so don’t call it greed when there are shoppers that PREFER it that way, look at the BIG picture and don’t assume it’s one sided.

        • Cindi

          you could say the same about shopping and spending your money. You have 360 other days of the year to do that. Many people like to go out of town at this time of they year to spend with family.

          • ATL_VM

            “you could say the same about shopping and spending your money. You have 360 other days of the year to do that.”

            Another person that is completely clueless.. Black friday and the weekend after account for 1/3 of the TOTAL year business for MANY stores, it’s a HUGE say of sales, so 1 of 365 isn’t the same, it’s more like Black Friday is 100 out of 365.. so yeah closing is not an option if you want to stay competitive with your competition you have to open earlier and longer it’s how retail works..

            Maybe go to school before you ASSUME you know what you are talking about.

            • Tasha D

              I do have a business degree (masters) & an accounting degree (bachelors). While you are correct to assume that up to 30% is based off of sales for that weekend, it accounts for the whole weekend; black Friday, Saturday & Sunday. They price things lower of Thanksgiving to get customers but if the don’t come on Thursday, they will come on Friday & spend a little more. Look at the list of stores that will be closed, like DSW or Steinmart, they will NOT hurt sales by closing on Thanksgiving. Economics 101

        • Gina Davenport

          I can understand where you are coming from, but why make people work if they don’t want to and just want to be with with there family, if coworkers are like family and they don’t want to go home either then they should all get together and be with each other, I have friends who are more of family then my blood relatives and would love to spend time with them. It’s not just being Thankful for family but it’s also about sharing like inviting people who you don’t really know to have a meal with people who care. It’s about being happy, love, sharing and caring. Just how I feel.

        • Eunice Small

          I think it is SUPER IMPORTANT for you young folks to understand that USA traditions are important! The reality is that of course we are to be thankful for all things every single day . God has given us all we have whether people want to recognize it. Thanksgiving Day has been set aside as a special day for centuries. The first thanksgiving was was
          celebrated by the Pilgrims after their first harvest in
          1621. So you see,thanksgiving is not just about being thankful but also it is recognizing history. Furthermore, I understand that family is who we choose to be family. It can be our family we were born into or family we make from those we like to be around. Work is not a place to gather with family and celebrate thanks or enjoy the freedoms we have to celebrate a historical day! Who cares that you made double. Money isnt everything. You will learn that one day. It appears to me that you have your priorities screwed up! Thats not so super 🙁

      • jcunningham

        Amen

      • Makai

        My other comment is in moderation. In case it doesn’t make through just wanted to mention you are absolutely 100% wrong. There was more crime back then. There always has been. We are on like a 25 year downward trend in crime rates, there was more crime I guarantee it, just because your t.v. wasn’t playing news 24/7 trying to fill air time with a variety of crisis, and just because you didnt’ have a constant feed of information, doesn’t mean that things didn’t happen.

        They did.

      • Michael Kingston

        Extremely ignorant to think there was less crime. in fact, organized crime was somewhat tolerated and rampant, because they were white.

        Nowadays you just have the technology, and message boards (like this) so you hear about it MORE…. but STATISTICALLY speaking… things are probably better now than even just 20 years ago?..

    • Rob_Zohn

      Thanks for covering this subject.

      You can add Value Electronics the the long list of fine retailers that choose to close for Thanksgiving day and open the following day for Black Friday’s big sale day. After all Thanksgiving is one of the best and most enjoyable family holidays.

      • KAT GWINN

        Yeah!

    • donna

      Family does matter and I have always considered Thanksgiving one of my favorite holidays; however, in recent years I have no family to celebrate with. It’s not very exciting to cook a turkey and eat it on my coffee table alone. Maybe, I would like to go shop and do errands vs sit alone. Please do not presume that everyone out there has family. On the other hand, I do appreciate that retail staff would like the time to be with loved ones.

      • donna

        No one seems to get that not everyone has a family. Maybe some people would actually like to work on that day – interact with people and maybe earn some overtime pay? What is wrong with that?

        • Julia Gerard

          except retail does not pay overtime, they usually pay holiday pay than give you an extra day off.

          • Odin’s Child

            Julie, I work at Sears for many years in the auto shop, somehow when Lampert took over he stopped paying holiday pay, he said normal business day. It used to be on national holidays no full timer worked. That was left to part timers and those who wanted to work.

            • Julia Gerard

              It’s not really holiday pay if you have to take an extra day off lol, they just said it was to make you feel better about working a holiday!

        • Jayne Jill DeBoer

          Most people that are open on Thanksgiving, have to be open due to corporate policies… therefore, the people working aren’t actually choosing work, they HAVE to work… I have worked retail management for 20 years, it has never been my CHOICE…. i didn’t have a day in the matter. But, i did, and do, have my team volunteer first, that way at least THEY have somewhat of a choice… I do not. Preferably, corporate would decide to remain closed, that way, i can be with my family.

        • Wendy Taylor Griffith

          I agree with you, as I don’t have any family or anyone else to spend the holidays with either. Last year’s holiday season just about killed me, however people like me and you who don’t have anyone are in the minority, unfortunately.

          • Imgood2go

            Perhaps instead of the ‘pity party’ (it’s only been my younger son and I for years now) why not go help out at a community kitchen to feed the less fortunate? You’ll have others to talk to AND be doing something to help others in need. Give those who work in retail time off to be with their families!

        • Imgood2go

          If you want to “interact with people” perhaps volunteering at a food pantry or community kitchen would be a better option than forcing people to work in retail and miss time with their families and friends.

        • We Named The Monkey Jack

          Whats wrong with the people forced to work on a holiday having a say in whether they do or not? It’s a freaking federal holiday and every person who has a job deserves to have the day off. If you don’t have a family to spend time with on Thanksgiving, go volunteer at a soup kitchen, homeless shelter, hospital.

        • Elfgirl68

          I think the issue is that at places like Walmart and Target they don’t seem to have a choice if they want to work on that day. It is a mandatory work day, as Julia X Finch stated a few comments up. That is wrong to make an employee work on Thursday and Black Friday just so people like you can “shop”. So ye, forcing someone to work on Thanksgiving is what is wrong with that. Does that answer your question? It should.

    • Mike F.

      Back in the day the vast majority of businesses were closed on Sundays as well. Fast forward to now. Most are open! Plus their business hours are longer. I think they could at least close on certain major holidays to celebrate and be with family and friends. They have the rest of the year to screw everyone with their prices to make up what they say they are losing. Time with family and a day to decompress matters.

    • Deborah Webb

      As a former retail worker at Belk, I’m definitely in favor of stores being closed on Thanksgiving Day for families to spend time together. Go back to opening the stores at 6 am on Black Friday – let it be Black Friday – not Thanksgiving Black Thursday. I DO NOT SHOP ON THANKSGIVING. Just my two cents!

      • Psykotik_Dragon

        I’ve always called it F**k You Thursday ever since they started making us work on it instead of Black Friday as it used to be. Even the 10-11p Thu night starts were WAY better than having to come in at 2-3p on Thu afternoon. Congrats! you get to have Thanksgiving Breakfast with your family…if you hurry up & eat so you have time to get ready & get TO work as well because the roads & parking lot will be packed & you have to find a spot somewhere AND THEN get to work proper.
        I’ve never, in my 15+ yrs working customer service/retail/fast food known someone who “CHOSE” to work retail over a better job. Retail is where you work when you need to pay bills but can’t get a job anywhere else or need money while trying to get a better job somewhere else. End of story.

    • Lisa Shifflett

      It’s a tradition for me and my son to go shopping every year on Thursday. It’s well spent quality time together. We don’t have family, so we enjoy shopping.

      • We Named The Monkey Jack

        What about the people who do have families who are forced to work so you can shop? Selfish much?

        • Lisa Shifflett

          I agree with Donna. Plus, I’m just one person, even if I did quit shopping, what about all the others who do? And… I’m not the one who makes the employees work on Holidays! If they don’t like working holidays, maybe they should switch jobs to a company that doesn’t make them work on holidays.

          • photographer

            I disagree maybe they like the job all stores should close maybe you don’t have a family but we do I feel for them I can name alot of stores ……
            See it from someone else’s side nobody cares about shopping when it comes to thanksgiving wait till Friday…

          • donna

            Thanks for your rational input Lisa. If you don’t like your job conditions, go increase your skill set and look for another one that better suits your lifestyle. Stop the whining and be happy for a paycheck, not everyone is lucky enough to have one

    • Lisa

      They all need to be closed on holidays and sundays,if people would go one day without shopping they would, when I was young that’s how it was , everybody got what they needed before hand, families need to be together and all need the rest also

      • Kathy Kaso

        Yes that is how it should be. The world is not going to end if you do not get something for a few dollars cheaper then usual and not on that one day.

      • Richard Sutton

        What about those that Saturday is their day of worship?

    • Julia X Finch

      Freaking Walmart stole my Thanksgivings four years in a row. Had to work from the early afternoon into the early morning and missed the whole day all for their Black Friday sales. Working on Thanksgiving was mandatory for everyone and it sucked. All stores should be closed.

      • Elfgirl68

        I hear ya. I worked for Dillard’s for 6 months. Some of that fell over the holidays. I was forced to work and it was painful. The store was so empty. No one in reality wants to shop on Thanksgiving. It wasn’t worth the time and a half that they paid me. Retail sucks! LOL!

        • Kenneth Cotton

          hahaha retailers like walmart,best buy and target are jam packed for the thanksgiving sales and have been for years thats there biggest sales day of the year more people choose to shop on thanksgiving then the Friday after or any other time of the year

      • Renee Schalasky Goldsberry

        Corporate greed at it’s finest

      • Kenneth Cotton

        ya making extra money in a job u CHOOSE to work sucks no one should have to work ever

    • Virginia

      Its all great that some of you like to shop on Thanksgiving, but some of us would like to be home with our families. Working Thanksgiving and Black Friday are mandatory.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        then stop complaining and find a job that doesn’t open for thanksgiving u told walmart u didn’t mind working holidays when they hired u

    • kristin03

      I think stores should be closed on Thanksgiving. I work at Ulta and we open at 5pm. None of the staff wants to be there and would rather be at home with their families. I think its just plain wrong to be open. Family is more important!

    • Karen Taylor

      They need to bring back the traditional Black Friday deals and not do them on Thanksgiving it ruins the whole idea of Black Friday deals. I would rather spend my time eating and mapping out what I am doing on Friday than shopping on Thanksgiving that is why I do alot of online shopping

      • Kenneth Cotton

        who says u can’t eat then go shopping???? most families that i know eat thanksgiving meals in the afternoon so they have a chance to digest and family members from other parts have time to get home and put kids to bed plus almost everyone has to work the day after thanksgiving so an early meal is the best option which gives u plenty of time to eat and plan out your shopping

    • KAT GWINN

      I’m a shopper and black Friday deals have are it possible for me to buy things I badly needed and allowed for some wants. Getting up for 4 and 5 am shopping was ok. But it was NOT I’ll when stores started opening up at midnight, 1 am. And then opening up Thanksgiving day was just down right wrong, frustrating for employees and shoppers. I participated as little as possible (some things selling we really needed though, ugh) and we basically didn’t have Thanksgiving.

      Here’s what I have never understood, many retailers are opening their doors at the same time, therefore making the consumers choose which place to go to. Every retailer wants out money right? So reailers, why not stagger your times, sales, etc…Stop making us pick one place ober the other. Stagger the great sales through the day, the weekend and we spend our money everywhere, we end up spending more money, and so on.

      Where is the joy in getting up to shop at 4, 5 and 6 am? People are coming in on little or no sleep, this brings crankiness, fights, dangers in driving, etc.

      Stop running your “door buster” sales at the same time and same day and more money will be spent, consumers will be happier, employees will be happier, businesses won’t have to give special pay and incentives and everyone will be safer and more money goes in retailers pockets. People get to shop and be home with family. Win, win for all. Just sayin’.

      That’s what I strongly believe anyway. Maybe I’m too simple.

      • mitchel mote

        Your heart is in the right place! But, actually, the whole time staggering thing you propose isn’t correct. There are a finite number of dollars to be spent (We’ll table the concept of credit card and debt for another time, but even there, everyone has a credit limit imposed on them by their lending institution.) So, the stores are in competition for these finite dollars. Whoever opens “first” gets the first whack at these dollars. The stores that are open later only get what is left.

        Now, this IS modified somewhat by two places offering the exact same thing. People will tend to go where the price is the best. That is the whole idea that door-busters try to obliterate, tho’ By offering a really cheap price on one thing (usually limited availability) they attract the customers to their location, who then tend to make all their other purchases at full price, rather than waste time going from store to store. Toss in a few free drawings (that cost the company pretty much nothing), open as early as possible and you stand the best chance of making the most money overall.

        It boils down to greed, on both sides of the equation (businesses AND owners.) Truly, if you don’t want stores to be open on Thanksgiving, the customers have the control (eventually) by refusing to shop. I do. I haven’t shopped ANYWHERE on Thanksgiving or Christmas in more than a decade. And this is as a retail manager. Even tho’ I am forced to work, I make no purchases even at my store that day. I get all my groceries, gas, etc. the day before. I refuse to go to a restaurant or take in a movie. Those two days should be work free days for everyone except first responders, hospitals, and occupations that require someone on hand 24 hours a day (utilities, utility repair folks, etc) for the common good and safety. Yes, it sucks for those folks too and they should be amply rewarded for their sacrafice (extra days off, holiday pay, etc.) and I salute them.

        • Aleister DaSilva

          The bottom line is that the corporations don’t care about employees. They’re only concerned with maximum return to shareholders. In walmart’s case more money for the walton family to wallow around in.

    • merri

      It is very simple… don’t shop on that day and they will start closing.

    • Tammy Hargis

      WALMART SHOULD CLOSE ON THANKSGIVING LIKE THEY USED TO YEARS AGO!!!! IT’S ONLY RIGHT THAT FAMILIES BE TOGETHER ON THIS HOLIDAY AS WELL AS CHRISTMAS.

    • Hoosier6

      I agree with most, thanksgiving should be for families. I know it’s a way for the retailers to get more money, but with online BF deals happening at midnight thurs/thanksgiving….ppl are still spending lots of money. That way, if you don’t get the deal online…you head to the store on Friday. Win/win for everyone

      • Kathy Kaso

        My store makes the same amount as it made when it opened at midnight / 5am……there is absolutly NO point of it being open.

    • donna

      Some people have suggested I’m selfish or having a pity party because I don’t have family to spend the holiday with. In fact, I expect to volunteer at a nursing home to cheer up seniors who may not have visitors. Also, I have never, every shopped on Thanksgiving, Xmas or any other major holiday. I don’t work in retail, but I have a deadline-oriented job that has forced me to cancel holiday travel with next to zero notice. I sympathize with those that have no choice but to work. Please be grateful for having a job, even if it means some sacrifice. PEACE!

      • Kathy Kaso

        I am grateful to have a job….but those few hours that the store could be closed for us to enjoy time with our family is not going to do anything to them. I am sorry you do not have anyone but some people do and they should not be made to work, like i am, just for a few extra bucks. Actually my store makes the same amount when it opens at 6pm to what it made when it opened at 12am. So what the hell is the reason for it to be open?

        • donna

          Kathy, i agree with you. If i were a store manager or retail policy maker, i would argue for store to be closed on Turkey Day

    • Sharon Ledesma

      I believe every store and gas station should be closed on thanksgiving and christmas day. Years ago, You couldn’t find anyplace open. And thats the way it should be.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        this ain’t 1950 anymore sweetheart things change time moves on change with it

        • Rosalie

          What wrong in taking a lesson of the good ol’ Days, sweetheart? I believe we need to change back to some things we did back then, then you wouldn’t have a soap box to ramble long sentences like your trying to say your peace in your last dying breath.

          • Kenneth Cotton

            The world doesn’t move backwards granny things are never going to be how they used to be either change with the times or get busy duo

    • Anonymous

      Thank you Academy for allowing my father to spend thanksgiving with us.

    • Lizzy Muransky

      Well money does rule the world. ANY store open on Thanksgiving is disgusting and I hope they go out of business for being open on Thanksgiving. People deserve to have time with family. My son is out there working retail for the first time and it’s killing me that I might not be having Thanksgiving dinner with my only child because the store he works at are so f’ing greedy that they’re going to be open. Damn them all to hell.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        ya how dare a store sell products and pay employees extra hours greedy employees they should all give up there extra money from the holidays and sit at home

    • Peter Sedano

      they should make it a choice based work day and probably go back to it being on a friday instead of on thanksgiving day, the fun was getting up early and going to see the fights and other people go crazy over materialistic items/discounts

    • Jason

      Make it a national law if not Pennsylvania and Ohio should make the same thanksgiving blue law

    • Jennifer

      I am glad that so many retailers are continuing to be closed on Thanksgiving Day for the importance of being with family, especially with all that has been happening in our country lately.

    • Lisa Jameson

      With the amount of stores closing for good and malls shutting down, pretty soon we won’t have to worry about this issue at all. Just sayin’.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        ya cause walmart and target are really hurting

    • edolphs

      Having worked in Retail at the holidays, I am all for them being closed. I never shop Thanksgiving or the day after unless its a Grocery store.

    • Don’t Tread On Me

      Of course MACY’S will be open on Thanksgiving.
      They should be ashamed of themselves.
      They’re more concerned about money than the employees & customers enjoyment of the holiday.
      I smell backlash against Macy’s.

    • donna

      Please get over yourselves and be thankful that you have a job and a family to miss. The stores will stay open as long as people want to shop on that beloved family holiday. We can’t fight corporate greed and it’s the consumers that drive it by showing up. May they be content with getting some good deal at the expense of family time.

    • Bre McCollum

      No stores should be open on thanksgiving. It’s a freaking holiday. Even if you chose not to celebrate it. Millions of others do. When I was a kid, stores were closed on thanksgiving, closed early Christmas eve, closed Christmas day, closed early new years eve and were closed new year day. It should be that way now.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        Easter, MLK, Columbus day, the 4th of july and new years are all holidays to should we start closing every store on those days to????

    • Jayne Jill DeBoer

      As a retail store manager, I hope people who shop on Thanksgiving Day realize, that the stores that are open, actually force their people to work on these holidays, (corporate decides this)…they aren’t voluntary… so, if YOU are CHOOSING to shop, they’re not CHOOSING to work, they HAVE no choice if they want to keep their job…. I typically will end up working in order to give my peeps a much needed and deserved day off….

      • Kenneth Cotton

        so your saying stores hold guns to employees heads to work on holidays???? because otherwise there not forcing anyone no one in America is forced to work for any company at any time if u don’t wanna work holidays then find a field that’s closed on them having worked at walmart for several years i never saw or heard of anyone being physically forced to ever work and everyone was asked before hired if they minded working holidays also i never heard any fellow employees or managers ever complain about the extra hours in there checks or the holiday meals wal-mart provides to all employees or the 75% off any item coupon every employee gets for working thanksgiving

    • Kathie Gaule Seltvedt

      I don’t shop on Thanksgiving. I used to go out early on Black Friday as it was fun, but now, since the excitement starts on Thanksgiving, it takes away from Black Friday. Therefore I just shop year round and skip the Christmas rush altogether.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        have fun paying 60-75% more

      • donna

        I tend to agree with Kenneth. Indentured servitude went out the window many years ago. If you don’t like your job, find another one.

    • Marianne Tansil

      THANKSGIVING DAY SHOULD BE A TIME FOR “FAMILY”!
      I understand some emergency stores with gas. But others stores I have questions for corporate.
      ARE YOU GREEDY?
      Do you value family?
      Do you spend time with your family?

      • Kenneth Cotton

        so if someone doesn’t have family or lives to far away to visit there greedy???? those who CHOOSE to work the extra hours in order to provide a good holiday to there kids and family are greedy????

    • Last year TJ Maxx/HomeGoods advertise they don’t believe in Thanksgiving Day sales, so while they are closed on Thanksgiving Day, other parts of Potomac Mills Mall will be open. The mall has 200+ stores on one level.

    • Connie

      Sunday. If you feel the need to shop that badly on any of these holidays, do so online. Or wait until they reopen the next day!! There is nothing that needs to be purchased that badly on a holiday!!!

    • donna

      Why are people so desperate to acquire goods that they need to shop on Thanksgiving? I don’t get it…

    • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

      I worked at toys r us 3 years ago on thanksgiving and had to rush to as we opened at 5pm for the “Black Friday deals” as a mother of 4 this wasn’t fun for me. I worked from 4pm-12 and we had to work some part of it we weren’t allowed to take the day off. This isn’t fair I wanted to be home with my family not watching people rush to save some money

      • donna

        Was it your choice to have 4 children and work in retail?

        • Heather Mcmahon-mizerak

          Yes it was my choice to have 4 children obviously and no retail wasn’t my first choice it was something I had to take to support my family. Your comments are very rude and dripping with attitude. You obviously have never worked in retail or you wouldn’t even ask such stupid questions

          • Kenneth Cotton

            I have worked in retail for many years and missed many thanksgivings no one forced me or u or anyone else to work in retail there are other jobs out there that don’t open on thanksgiving get one i’ll happily work the holiday and take the extra pay the holiday guarantees

            • Rosalie

              Listen here buckaroo, just because no one forced YOU (notice me actually using the English language and not doing short hand. That ended years ago) to work at whatever retail job you chose to work, doesn’t mean we aren’t forced. I had bills to pay, and if I didn’t show up, I’d have to have your tax dollars pay for me to contiue to live because I’d be fired. I had to work from 2 pm to midnight, and be back that shop by 3 am on a Friday morning to people waiting in a line for me to let them in. I got off on Black Friday around 9 pm and had to be back at work at 6 am on Saturday to do it all again. I’m typically off on Sundays since I go to church, and teach a Sunday school class, and I had to miss that too for people wanting to make their shopping weekend 4 days. And you know what? ALL that extra money (don’t be fooled, kenneth, there isn’t extra money on that check than any other check throughout the year) Yes, no one is holding a gun to my head, but as someone in the retail management, who had to interview potential employees. I was told specifically to not mention holidays, to avoid anyone saying no. Also, look at the job market. A lot of jobs that require degrees or other jobs that are closed on holidays are harder to find now because of the market. So, what do you expect Heather to do? Just quit and just be at home, with your tax dollars paying for her and her children’s lives? I would assume not because you seem like the person who wouldn’t want that. Retail is what they have to do right now because of the job market, or because they don’t know what else they want to do! So stop taking negatively on other people’s families just so you can feel like a cool and hip old man on the internet because you know how to be rude to people.

              Heather, you go momma! Having 4 kids and working is hard, and you are teaching a good example to them about that hard work!

            • Kenneth Cotton

              Listen here granny no one forced u to accept any job if you had half a brain you’d realize theres tons of industries that aren’t open on thanksgiving and generally don’t require college degrees like warehouses stop whinning like a 2 year old about choices YOU MADE. Also the extra money I was referring to is hourly employees who wouldn’t have the extra hours the next few weeks many wouldn’t have jobs if it wasnt for the holiday shopping which is mainly black Thursday-friday so i guess you’d rather those people not have a job so u can have one extra day off???? And heaven forbid you had to work on a Sunday in retail how horrible. Lastly every employer either directly ask applicants in person or on the application if they can work weekend’s and holidays I’ve never seen or heard of an employer not asking this before hiring someone no one tricked u or forced u to accept a job u knew was open on the holidays and Sunday’s u made that choice be an adult own up to your bad decision making stop whinning and be thankful u have a good job because many don’t and won’t

      • Kenneth Cotton

        ya i’m sure the extra money u made because of them being open on thanksgiving totally wasn’t fun u should give that money back

    • My Two Cents

      The problem with stores being open on Thanksgiving is that they often pressure (or require) employees to work on that day. They may ask for volunteers originally but if there aren’t enough, anyone is fair game. Not only will I not shop on Thanksgiving, I will not shop at any store that is open on Thanksgiving for months afterward.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        every retailer asks if u mind working holidays before they hire u if u say u don’t mind then that’s on you

        • Rosalie

          Not every retailer asks, Kenneth. May I suggest you taking advantage of the Black Friday deal of a dictionary and lessons in punctuation? As a retail manager, my corporation wants me to specifically not ask to avoid people saying no.

    • Crackers luv M3TH

      Thanksgiving is a lie anyway. It’s the day Whites murderd thousands of Natvie Americans and stole America from them. The truth hurts doesn’t it and it should.

    • Mary

      Good for them; they need to be with their families on this day!

      • donna

        You are fortunate to have a family and a job. I do sympathize with people that are forced to work on a holiday on low retail wages, as I have done on occasion.

    • Clove

      I always loved Black Friday. It was such a fun day to get into the Christmas spirit and spend time with my girlfriends running around and enjoying the rush and different sales. My favorite was the year that everything opened up at midnight.. We had so much fun! Thanksgiving shopping is not the same, and I refuse to rush out of time with my extended family to grab a deal. I would love to see all of the major stores go back to an actual Friday opening.

      • donna

        Clove, I loved your post! It really is fun to get into the Christmas spirit, but it doesn’t have to be on Thanksgiving Day. I don’t even have family, but I still believe some days should be sacred, all-American holidays where we should remember to be thankful for what we have vs going out buying “stuff” that we probably don’t really need.

    • donna

      I do understand the fun of it and getting into the Christmas spirit, but does it all have to be about buying things? Don’t many of us have enough stuff? I tend to invite friends over or have a fun lunch with friends vs buying things. Is that abnormal?

    • Bleddyn

      The only stores that I would like to be opened in the morning on Thanksgiving is the stores that sell the food items for Thanksgiving. Every year, I either forget an item or realize that the amount I bought was not enough. But once it gets near noon, cut your employees loose and let them enjoy Thanksgiving with their family.

    • 7kids

      In Maine our Black Friday starts on Friday not Thanksgiving Day. The big stores are not allowed to open until 12:01am Friday morning. The only store that are allowed open on Thanksgiving Day are small convenient stores. I hope they keep it this way.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        that’s because Maine is anti-freedom any state that makes laws saying when a retailer can be open and when they cant is unamerican and some retailer should sue Maine and the Rhode island in the US supreme court for lost profits and to get this unamerican blue law kicked off the books its an illegal law

    • wiscdance

      No shopper is forced to come out of their home for sales. It is a choice. If they would stop coming, perhaps the other major retailers would respect their employees and close.

    • jcunningham

      Here’s a thought if we the shoppers don’t shop on Thanksgiving day, guest what retail store will close on that day.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        and workers will be laid off and less workers will be hired the following year so you’ve killed 100.000’s of jobs and cost millions of employees needed extra hours

    • Diane

      Unfortunately I work on Thursday because our store doesn’t close.But what I don’t understand is the people that do come in and shop say “It’s a shame you have to work on Thanksgiving” Yes, I would rather be home with my family. but you would rather shop so I have to be here. I guess they just don’t understand.

      • Kenneth Cotton

        if you’d rather be home with your family then stop being a cry baby and be home with your family no one forces u to work retail no one forced u to lie when they asked if u minded working holidays when they hired u u made those choices just like u make the choice to not find a job that isn’t open on thanksgiving but please continue to blame the customers who make it possible for u to even have a job i bet u don’t mind the extra money on your paycheck the next 2 months

        • Jayne Jill DeBoer

          Some retail workers do not have a REAL choice to NOT work. If you want to keep your job, you work. If you CHOOSE to not work, then you’re CHOOSING to not have a job. Yes, when I began working retail, the question of, “will you work holidays” was more about working Columbus Day or Presidents Day. NOT Thanksgiving. And, YES, my employer told me, as a Store Manager, that I did NOT have a choice, I HAD to be there. So I gave employees that had plans the day off. I worked at Mall of America, who insists on being open, therefore, my employer demanded us to work. And no, I was salary, so NO OVERTIME. Kenneth Cotton, you seem to really have an issue with people who want and deserve to have Thanksgiving off….what is the issue and why do you care if I want Thanksgiving off? Just because you haven’t witnessed people being told they have to work, doesn’t mean it isn’t actually happening.

    • Maryann

      Black Friday is no longer Black Friday because of the greed these retailers have been showing over the last few years. We used to be able to enjoy Thanksgiving with our families, then have fun plotting our game plan for the overnight haul. Now it’s either rush through Thanksgiving dinner or try to buy what you can online, or skip it all together. It used to be something fun we could do once a year when it was easy to find a babysitter because the kids were asleep, but sadly all Black Friday is nowadays is Chew and Screw Thursday for most and the poor people who have retail jobs have to sacrifice yet another holiday altogether! When is the greed going to end so that the fun and tradition can get back to where it was? They’re still going to get their money no matter what….does it really matter how early they start getting it?

    • donna

      I support retail stores being closed on Thanksgiving. If there were a state or national referendum, I would support retail stores closing. Even though I have no family in recent years, I retain a yearning for the traditions and happy memories.
      For those of you who do have family, please, please be thankful that you have people to miss. Not everyone is so lucky…

    • Missy

      Take notice the ONEs open on thanksgiving are going broke . That’s why they do this !! They have to try to keep the stock holders happy !! Could care less about the small ppl working on a holiday ! Sad an bad !!

      • Kenneth Cotton

        wal-mart and target are going broke???? pretty sure there making more money now then ever

    • Gina Davenport

      I thank it’s great to close on Thanksgiving Day, we have computers where we can go buy things so why not close. Anyway Thanksgiving is a day to be thankful for what we have especially our families not thankful for shopping… Its about time

    • Justin Domnik

      I used to work retail years ago. Never had to work thanksgiving. It was shitty enough knowing that you had to be at work at 3:30am the next day to work a 12 hour shift, on minimal sleep. You won’t see me out shopping on thanksgiving or black friday. I’ll order stuff online if needed.

    • donna

      Consumerism is out of control. Very few people need the latest tech product or new set of sheets, clothing or cars. Spending in this manner is why many people will have no savings in retirement years. Social security will crash and not be enough to sustain people at this rate…

    • Mari

      If a store is open on Thanksgiving, I do not shop there until after Christmas. My only exceptions are drugstores for people who need pharmacies. Thankfully, Aldi’s closes so I can buy groceries. Too bad Wegman’s doesn’t close. Oh well.

    • Guest

      JMO stores should be closed so people can spend time with their families. Life isn’t all about money. Without your family what does a person really have?

      • Donna

        People without family have friends. I have been fortunate that some friends have invited me to join their family gatherings. If you happen to know a Thanksgiving “orphan”, pls think about inviting them to share with you in this wonderful holiday.

    • Janet Slusher

      I think stores should respect employees enough to allow them family time. I remember a time when everything was closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas. It made it special.

    • Storm45

      I use a walker for my multiple scoliosis so I much rather be safe and stay home no use getting hurt Thanksgiving or Black Friday honestly.

    • leeayala

      Cabela’s is actually open on Thanksgiving thanks to the Bass Pro buy out.

    • Michael torres

      I am only gonna say this once,thanksgiving is a day of celebration for everyone.

    • Holly Golightly

      Years ago, most stores were closed on New Years Day, Easter Sunday, July 4th, Thanksgiving and Christmas Day. Today most chain stores here in Illinois are only closed on Christmas Day and Easter Sunday. Opening on Thanksgiving Day occurred only recently, but once the door was opened by one chain, the others had to follow to protect their market share. Many chain stores are now open 24/7 and people shop at all hours. The genie can’t be put back in the bottle and retail is a cutthroat business. The only thing that will stop stores from opening on holidays is when it is no longer profitable to do so.

    • Roderick Maurer

      Add DXL Men’s Apparel to the list.

    • Jackie

      The key is don’t go out on Thursday and do whatever it is that your little heart desires. Keep your money in your pocket until the “next sale” this will eventually make more retailers think about it. Its interesting how packed it is when so many people disagree with it. I will be staying home and playing my old video games.

    • Krysia Paladino

      After reading a lot of these comments I just wanted to leave my 2 cents. I have worked for the same restaurant for the past 7 years. We are open every day of the year except Christmas, staight pay, and i work most holidays. And for the most part it does bite.

      As for the people who say you chose retail, I hate to inmorm them it is sometimes the only choice if you want a job. Until you get that degree, skills, or training, retail is sometimes your only option. I speak from experience, I’m a trained Admin Assistant and now work retail because of medical issues.

    • James K.

      Why don’t we stop talking about it and start preparing for our holidays! Lol. As for the people that volunteer, choose to work or are forced to work why don’t you find a job that’s not in retail so I don’t have to hear you cry anymore. That’s the path you chose in life so either deal with it or change your job.

    • Sharon

      I’m 52…And live very close to New York and Philadelphia.
      When I was a kid and before that..the stores were closed.
      The exception was that there were employees who went in after 6pm on Thanksgiving Day after they enjoyed the day with family but only to “decorate” the stores!!
      This included the meet Santa area…
      Big stores like Macy’s etc…were especially known for it!!
      What a magical transformation all children and adults looked forward to…on Friday!! Going from plain stores on Wednesday and then coming in Friday to see all the decorations…lights…the massive trees and if course Santa!!
      We’ve lost all that when stores decided to decorate for Christmas in August and open their doors on Thanksgiving Day…if only we could bring that back..after all the true meaning of the Holidays is Family…and should never be about the Gifts…the gift is that you can spend them with your family and people you love.

    • Penny

      The blue law should be brought back. It’s UnAmerican. It’s corporate greed. And I work retail.

    • donna

      For those of you who recommend working in a soup kitchen or shelter, that idea is admirable. When is the last time you did so?

      I lost my job two weeks ago and will be alone on Thanksgiving, but i have many things to be thankful for.

      I have read the horrendous shifts that some in retail need to work. That’s not right, but it is the way it is. I will boycott such stores.

      Please rembember to be thankful for what you do have. Thanksgiving is important, but just one day.

    • Dayna

      I gave up retail to be with my family for holidays. My family is more important. I don’t believe companies loose business with 1 day closed. They loose more business with on line shopping, which I rather do then be in crowds.

    • My local mall, Potomac Mills Mall in Woodbridge, VA will open at 6 PM Thanksgiving Day. However, several of the stores on the list are in the mall. The mall has 200+ stores on one level.

    • Karen Tiratto

      All stores should be closed u idiots can shop in friday

    • Evan Elliott

      Only full time employees with over 90 days are paid extra, most stores use part time help or salaried employees to eliminate the added costs and don’t pay them anything more.

    • Beth

      I think all stores should be closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas. I worked retail for over 18 years and I believe those 2 major holidays , employees should be home with their families. It’s bad enough the holidays are rushed right into each other , but at least give these people a chance to have a break too. Black Friday used to be Black Friday , wake up 1 in the morning go stand online and wait. Now it’s Thursday in the middle of holiday dinner. Why ??? I don’t patron stores on Thanksgiving or Christmas. I know exactley how those employees feel. There is no time and half worth losing valuable family time over. Your going to be taxed more on that damn overtime anyway so why bother.

    • Matt-O-Plex

      I had to work. Sears full line locations didn’t close, and they don’t ask for volunteers either. I hope the trend continues and more and more stores close. Like the last couple years, I will only be supporting the stores on the closed list until January, unless it is impossible to avoid, in which case I will only grace the blue law state locations.

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    • Brianna Bradley

      I work at Sears, and just a heads up, most of us don’t get the “option” to work on Thanksgiving, we are required to. Managers are the only ones who get to choose their shifts. For many of us, even though stores don’t open until 5 or 6, that means we don’t even get to enjoy a Thanksgiving dinner with our families. Several of my coworkers and myself had families out of town and we were not given enough time to leave town to see families and return for a shift we had no voice in. We opened at 6 this year, but we were required to be at work at 4:30 to set up signs and prep the store for the evening.

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